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Good Morning, I have new crew who are not members and I intend to race in the GO Fleet.
I would like information about the starting sequence (timing) that CYC uses and a visual of the flags used. This would be helpful for me to share with the new crew.

I looked up my Portsmouth rating and it is: Catalina 22 (SK/WK, N/Spi) Offshore CAT22 96.30 98.40 96.30 95.30 95.10

Are there any forms that non-member crew need to sign, such as a liability waver? I am unable to find this info on the new website.

Thank You for your help.

Celeste Blair
585-754-6289
cblair002@gmail.com


The sequence is the standard 5 minute sequence. The course and flags are on the GO Fleet page. Your Portsmouth rating takes in to account the swing keel so you should not be at a disadvange against the fixed keel boats. The Catalina is a bit underpowerd so the sailmakers make as them as large as possible. The sail touching the backstay is ok as long as it is not getting caught.


Hi William, Thank You for your input! 
All I know is, the fleet walks away from us.  I've tuned and re-tuned. I'm making adjustments on course to cars for headsail along with other tweeks.
Looking at the calculated race results, we are consistently 10 minutes behind you..

I know I could be doing better... with a different boat,  Ha! ...but I shall not give up trying to improve our time. Cleaner tacks will help that.  
Best 
Celeste


Hi Celeste,

A couple pieces of advice.  You need to get your motor up higher.  Having it drag in the water is real slow.  Last time I saw you sail, it was raised, but still dragging and spinning the propeller.  Think about how much slower you go dragging a hand or foot in the water. There is no silver bullet that you can tweak on your boat that'll fix 10 minutes behind.  Tuning and tweaking to the rig, are 10ths of a knot.  That equates to maybe 30 seconds over a race GO fleet length race.  If you'd like my advice, IF there's something wrong with the boat, it's likely drag related.  Dragging the motor, slime on the bottom, kelp on the keel or rudder.... something like that.  That's the only thing that can slow a boat THAT much.  After that, it's likely steering angle up wind.  I'd look at how high you're able to sail.  Figure out what full trim is for your boat, and once it's trimmed perfectly, hyper focus on the telltales and steer to them.  Steer down when the windward telltales goes up, steer up when the leeward one goes up.  The sail has to be trimmed perfectly for that to work, but you may just be off the wind.  I find a lot of people don't sail as high as they can and that's extra distance covered which adds a lot of time to the race.  (unless you're in a footing mode in which case it's a couple degrees down and increased speed might be tactically what you need at that moment.)  Most new people however sail WAY low which is a quick way to pick up time and improve.  After that, is likely the team work in tacks.  Getting the boat to turn in a smooth arch, not oversteering, and having the sail trim for both sails match the turn.  That's all about minimizing the speed lost through the turn.  Your boat's heavy.  You got to keep it moving because if it stalls, it's hard to get back up to speed and takes a long time to accelerate.  As skipper, it's easy to blame the crew for that, and not getting the jib/genoa in fast enough, but in truth, I've seen more times where it's the skipper under turning the boat and getting stuck in irons for a moment, or just not working with the crew to keep the boat moving.  It's discouraging to be that far behind, but... fortunately, there are things that you can do to see huge increases and all it takes is time on the tiller (and getting the boat bottom/blades clean, and the motor out of the water.)

Hope that helps.

Paul

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Hi William, Thank You for your input! 
All I know is, the fleet walks away from us.  I've tuned and re-tuned. I'm making adjustments on course to cars for headsail along with other tweeks.
Looking at the calculated race results, we are consistently 10 minutes behind you..

I know I could be doing better... with a different boat,  Ha! ...but I shall not give up trying to improve our time. Cleaner tacks will help that.  
Best 
Celeste




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Paul Owens

Star 8471 (Sneaky Duck..)


Hi Paul: My motor has been tilted out of the water for several weeks now during racing. So there's no prop hitting the water.
I have a drop keel and there is no slime or weeds on my rudder. The bottom shouldn't be too slimed up, but I'll check it. I clean and paint the bottom every fall and spring.

I know how to turn the boat correctly in a gybe or a tack. I have a few newbies on board so I'm not blaming my crew. But more practice on tacking properly is needed along with trimming sails using the tell tails. I'm instructing while racing which is not easy! I love my crew, they are very enthusiastic, so I don't mind. Everyone works, so practice time is hard to schedule.

Not being able to point better is my main concern.  I've just eliminated one of the problems with the genoa getting stuck on the starboard stanchion. I intend to eliminate all stanchions.

Do you want to come out with me for a review? Perhaps some pointers could help!
I intend to be there Wednesday for GoFleet so either before the race or even during the race would work. It's much easier to see the pointing issues on a course with markers. 😊😊

Give me a call or text Paul. 585-754-6289

THANK YOU!
Celeste

 


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Hi Celeste,

A couple pieces of advice.  You need to get your motor up higher.  Having it drag in the water is real slow.  Last time I saw you sail, it was raised, but still dragging and spinning the propeller.  Think about how much slower you go dragging a hand or foot in the water. There is no silver bullet that you can tweak on your boat that'll fix 10 minutes behind.  Tuning and tweaking to the rig, are 10ths of a knot.  That equates to maybe 30 seconds over a race GO fleet length race.  If you'd like my advice, IF there's something wrong with the boat, it's likely drag related.  Dragging the motor, slime on the bottom, kelp on the keel or rudder.... something like that.  That's the only thing that can slow a boat THAT much.  After that, it's likely steering angle up wind.  I'd look at how high you're able to sail.  Figure out what full trim is for your boat, and once it's trimmed perfectly, hyper focus on the telltales and steer to them.  Steer down when the windward telltales goes up, steer up when the leeward one goes up.  The sail has to be trimmed perfectly for that to work, but you may just be off the wind.  I find a lot of people don't sail as high as they can and that's extra distance covered which adds a lot of time to the race.  (unless you're in a footing mode in which case it's a couple degrees down and increased speed might be tactically what you need at that moment.)  Most new people however sail WAY low which is a quick way to pick up time and improve.  After that, is likely the team work in tacks.  Getting the boat to turn in a smooth arch, not oversteering, and having the sail trim for both sails match the turn.  That's all about minimizing the speed lost through the turn.  Your boat's heavy.  You got to keep it moving because if it stalls, it's hard to get back up to speed and takes a long time to accelerate.  As skipper, it's easy to blame the crew for that, and not getting the jib/genoa in fast enough, but in truth, I've seen more times where it's the skipper under turning the boat and getting stuck in irons for a moment, or just not working with the crew to keep the boat moving.  It's discouraging to be that far behind, but... fortunately, there are things that you can do to see huge increases and all it takes is time on the tiller (and getting the boat bottom/blades clean, and the motor out of the water.)

Hope that helps.

Paul

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